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	<description>A few words about teaching, language, and putting them together with technology.</description>
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		<title>By: Patricia Glogowski</title>
		<link>http://grammaramble.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/on-the-problem-with-blogs/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Glogowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what Jeff has said, &quot;We need to be doing “new things in new ways.” By journaling we’re doing “old things in new ways.”&quot; But I also agree with Illya, &quot;I don’t really see why we should discuss something on a blog with the same people we see in class, but opening up the communication brings in a whole different dimension.&quot; 

When I started blogging with my students, I used it for writing journals online. Then, I realized that I am really not doing anything in a more effective way. The argument that learning is &#039;enhanced&#039; really does not appeal to me as it suggests that what we are doing without technology is not effective enough. 

What I am trying to do now is to combine blogging with other tools (wikis, flickr, etc) to create online spaces for students where they can CONNECT to resources and to others online. I&#039;ve come to a realization that it is all about connecting and dialogue (just what we are doing now, here). How else would we exchange our thoughts on blogging or met? That&#039;s a new thing for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Jeff has said, &#8220;We need to be doing “new things in new ways.” By journaling we’re doing “old things in new ways.”&#8221; But I also agree with Illya, &#8220;I don’t really see why we should discuss something on a blog with the same people we see in class, but opening up the communication brings in a whole different dimension.&#8221; </p>
<p>When I started blogging with my students, I used it for writing journals online. Then, I realized that I am really not doing anything in a more effective way. The argument that learning is &#8216;enhanced&#8217; really does not appeal to me as it suggests that what we are doing without technology is not effective enough. </p>
<p>What I am trying to do now is to combine blogging with other tools (wikis, flickr, etc) to create online spaces for students where they can CONNECT to resources and to others online. I&#8217;ve come to a realization that it is all about connecting and dialogue (just what we are doing now, here). How else would we exchange our thoughts on blogging or met? That&#8217;s a new thing for me.</p>
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		<title>By: blogging for conversation &#171; Learning Curve</title>
		<link>http://grammaramble.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/on-the-problem-with-blogs/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>blogging for conversation &#171; Learning Curve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really liked grammaramble&#8217;s recent comments about blogs, which she linked to Jeff who talks about the need for blogs to be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karen Haines</title>
		<link>http://grammaramble.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/on-the-problem-with-blogs/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Haines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree and thanks for the link to Jeff&#039;s blog. My students (the ones who have taken to blogging like ducks to water) treat it as conversation. The journallers are much more reticent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree and thanks for the link to Jeff&#8217;s blog. My students (the ones who have taken to blogging like ducks to water) treat it as conversation. The journallers are much more reticent!</p>
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		<title>By: illya arnet-clark</title>
		<link>http://grammaramble.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/on-the-problem-with-blogs/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>illya arnet-clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that blogging only really becomes a powerful tool when it is used to communicate. Yet I find the road to that communication bumpy, to say the least, and it&#039;s a long road. I&#039;m glad there are such excellent role models out there such as Clarence Fisher, but each educator needs to take the steps themselves. 
My experience is that the students, especially adults, need to be lured out into this space. They need the thrill of being &#039;heard&#039; or read by others outside the classroom. I don&#039;t really see why we should discuss something on a blog with the same people we see in class, but opening up the communication brings in a whole different dimension.
Great post!
Illya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that blogging only really becomes a powerful tool when it is used to communicate. Yet I find the road to that communication bumpy, to say the least, and it&#8217;s a long road. I&#8217;m glad there are such excellent role models out there such as Clarence Fisher, but each educator needs to take the steps themselves.<br />
My experience is that the students, especially adults, need to be lured out into this space. They need the thrill of being &#8216;heard&#8217; or read by others outside the classroom. I don&#8217;t really see why we should discuss something on a blog with the same people we see in class, but opening up the communication brings in a whole different dimension.<br />
Great post!<br />
Illya</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
		<link>http://grammaramble.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/on-the-problem-with-blogs/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reflection. I wrote that post as I too am working through just how these blogs change what we are doing. I keep coming back to what Marc Prensky wrote in his article Adopt and Adapt. We need to be doing &quot;new things in new ways.&quot; By journaling we&#039;re doing &quot;old things in new ways.&quot; Although it might make life easier for a teacher, I don&#039;t think it moves us down that road of high order thinking, reflection, and conversations. 

Thanks for the conversation,

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reflection. I wrote that post as I too am working through just how these blogs change what we are doing. I keep coming back to what Marc Prensky wrote in his article Adopt and Adapt. We need to be doing &#8220;new things in new ways.&#8221; By journaling we&#8217;re doing &#8220;old things in new ways.&#8221; Although it might make life easier for a teacher, I don&#8217;t think it moves us down that road of high order thinking, reflection, and conversations. </p>
<p>Thanks for the conversation,</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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